Five Figure Niche Site Student Hits $500 month – Marty

this is another success story interview and this one I’m talking to Marty so Marty has been around in a lot of the livestreams and if you have paid attention to the chat you’ve probably seen Marty over there encouraging beginners to get started and this is a really cool story because Marty is a student of five figure niche site and he also coincidentally lives very close to where I used to work and live down in Georgia so anyway Marty has hit his initial goal from when he started the course which is $500 a month so we just hit that goal and he’s continuing to grow and revise his goals so we are chatting today we’re gonna hear about some of the mistakes that he made some of the you know issues with motivation and how to deal with that and generally how he’s been able to hit $500 a month with his Amazon affiliate site so without further ado let’s get to the interview right now hey what’s up I’m Doug Pennington I’m sitting with my friend Marty how are you doing today really good dog and I’m really flattered to be here really appreciate it awesome well thank you it’s my pleasure to speak with you you are a student from five-figure niche site so I’m happy to bring you out and like show you off so let’s get to the results like real quick right here so can you share your you know recent earnings in traffic over you know the past couple months or so right so when I took this morning my in Amazon I looked to my is given per 30 days for the last month 30 days was just about like I think it’s five hundred thirty dollars in fees I still get more coming because it’s not all paid yet but the traffic is I it’s getting closer just under 7,000 visitors a month now so it’s about sixty hundred or something right now cool and how old’s the site so let’s write it a year so as of June that made a year since I started a course no awesome well congratulations I know to work on any project for a full year is like it’s a pretty long time so it’s an accomplishment all by itself and I know in the last you know really in the last 30 days like it sort of been a milestone for you so can you tell us a little bit about that like what it means to you oh yeah you know and actually I even had the original note where I wrote down my goal that you suggested you know my goal was pretty moderate pretty modest I think I make hundred five five hundred dollars a month and I didn’t even expect for us to be talking about me having achieved that goal right now I thought it would take even more time but just this last week I happened to log into my Amazon affiliate fees account you know and lo and behold I couldn’t believe it there it was he actually exceeded five hundred dollars and it’s just kind of hard to describe it’s like when you make your famiry for sell but multiply that times ten and I had to almost actually just stop for a minute because I didn’t expect it but it felt so warm inside and it really just I was it’s just like it’s hard to describe to be honest with you it’s just like a wonderful surprise that make you just feel good for all the hard work you put in and so forth excellent well and you have put in a lot of hard work we’ll get into a lot of the details of the site and well not too many of the details but your process of going through it before we get there though what’s your background what do you do for your day job education all that kind of stuff right so actually by day my day job I’m an electrical engineer and I live and work here in Georgia United States and actually we’ve spoken before about I work where you used to work a long time ago yes so we’re in the same area excuse me my background is similar to that before I got out of Auburn University I was doing electronics and other things like that periodically while working at jobs before just in general I had seen other guys online who are like living a good life and they’re they’re able to travel and making money in lights blew me away because I always had this strange feeling inside that the everyday routine there should be more to life possible than that and I can remember some very specific moments in which it just bothered me that I would have to do the same routine to risk my life yeah and that’s why I was interested in this topic of to date marketing and how I found you do you remember when you first heard about like niche sites or affiliate marketing or anything like that I do remember I don’t remember the very first time I do remember having been on those sites because I bought a pair of earphones headphones one time and I think that was one of my first introductions and over the time more websites I was on it became obvious that they were I saw the disclaimer about being an affiliate side Amazon site and then I read more about it that’s how I found you and I understood more about what it actually was hopefully that explains a little bit more yeah so it sounds like a couple few years or something like that yeah exactly okay and did you build like other sites in the past just in general or yes I did actually I before I knew about you I knew what a legitimate course was I I built a website related to man’s health supplement and started off in the wrong foot and there’s no way I was gonna succeed and that was very discouraging but I actually learned quite a bit from that so it flopped and it didn’t last long you filmed me not too long ago you got the five figure niche site course like a year ago hazards in any or have there been other influences who were some other people that you follow and you know got value from oh definitely there’s a guy who goes by the name of Kyle trouble he’s not an Amazon affiliate marker but he’s a really smart guy who’s actually giving me some helpful information about how I write my content my links and just some general stuff as well as I learned quite a bit from some of the SEO articles and videos and webinars from companies like sem rush and aah refs Stewart Walker and nice hacks human proof designs especially them they’re they’ve had some great info I don’t know you know them as well people like to tend to give you sure a lot of real actionable information that helps beginners that’s that’s been a big influence on McTeer cool and we’ll link up all this stuff in the description I think that’s key you can sort of tell like after you see enough information you could tell the people that are practicing and like their practitioners of whatever you know craft they’re yeah talking about versus people that are just regurgitating it’s very easy to get into you know the habit of like regurgitating content from other sources and yeah you know if you’re just you know if you’re doing internet marketing you’re just getting started sometimes you do have to like reference other case studies but it becomes really clear when people just don’t know what they’re talking about this is true yes very cool so as far as like finding a niche so it sounds like you’ve had a variety of sources do you have any like recommendations for maybe dinner’s who haven’t picked the niche or maybe they’re not sure if the niche that they’re thinking of is a good profitable one yeah I definitely do I have several thoughts on that because that’s so critical especially giving how many how much competition there is out there these days I would say you don’t always look at just the first thing to pop into your head because probably everybody else is too so you can try to think sideways like steak instead of thinking about toasters thinking about some other kind of specialty item that’s similar but there may be there’s an opportunity with something else related to your first idea over time I’ve learned that because of how much timing money you’re going to vest what’s not it’s not necessarily a lot of money but the amount of time and effort those are resources to it would people would do well to buy in just an hour of time from from you for example to get a second opinion before they really go all in hard to put a price on somebody else’s experience and their perspective of how they say hey this is not a good idea or yeah you know I have a good feeling all the things lining up right you should do this because I can save people and it’s an enormous amount of grief and possibly eating trying to climb a mountain they shouldn’t climb you know and that’s a really good point someone that I’m coaching right now they hired me for a one-off you know just our to analyze a nod at their site and unfortunately they’ve been spending a lot of time and money on it over the last six months and if they just would have met with me first they would have saved you know thousands of dollars and it’s expensive to hire me for an hour but it’s cheaper than if you were definitely for six months so it’s really really key to I guess understand that maybe it’s an investment to hear that you’ve made a bad decision before you invest like so much more time and then you have this sunk cost fallacy where you know if you’re in you’re like well I better just keep going and then you may be yep just yes it’s never gonna start so you’re good well that’s said are there any mistakes that you made along the way in your journey that maybe we can learn from your mistakes so we don’t make them yeah I’m sure there’s a whole list but I thought to cut it down to the the biggest one so I am guilty when I started I was like a lot of people I got discouraged and there were periods of time where I let this the site sit and didn’t keep putting in effort in building content and links I was also at the same time I was guilty of the what people call shiny object syndrome where the next little thing that you might read about hey I think I’ll try this and I dip my toes and other things and that ended up actually hurting my progress for a couple just a few months a lot maybe a roughly two months or so and that’s a terrible feeling so I would say don’t do any of that stay focused keep working on it even when you’re discouraged you know take it just take a day we’re in a bad mood and then come back the next day and get back on track and stay focused look at you know when I started off my content was weak and that was a really bad idea I wasn’t really putting my heart into it and so my content wasn’t long enough it also wasn’t as good of a quality if I if I really as I really could have done so what that meant was when I got my act together later I had to go back and redo a bunch of it if I’d done it right better job the first time there would have been mistakes but it would have started off stronger when I started I was kind of led to believe that I had to buy a an Amazon specific theme and while that it was gonna make a big difference and while they’re nice and they have some pros but it turned out that just starting starting with a simple platform that looked good and helped present my content in a good way and gave a good impression people I would have been better off of that than having to go back again later and fix everything up revamp everything again guys understand especially the theme is a little tough and actually I’m going back and revising that portion of the course Marty partially from feedback from you but just in general as I’m moving learning more about more things themes I’m not a theme person myself I just I think that’s part of like why I maybe made a recommendation or two for a couple specific things because people really you know like some of the functionality but at the same time it’s like if you could just get something that looks good enough and you could put your time in content you know rewrite focusing on the content so it just quickly summarize so you mentioned high quality content upfront and then additionally probably the biggest thing is like you’re gonna have some down days your motivation is gonna waver you’re gonna think yeah unfortunately you’re gonna think why are these other people doing better I should be able to dip right but you can only compare yourself to like you a week ago yes is like anyone else absolutely agree I’ve heard that said before and is true or guilty sometimes of being our own worst critics critics we just have to be able to wake up in the morning saying that we gave our best effort whatever is not right well we’ll figure it out later we’ll learn we’ll fix it won’t get better one thing I’ve learned that it seems to be critical in general about trying to make money online even though I realized on the road to the beginner is that my mindset has changed a lot what I didn’t understand was we live in a world where were tempted to think and we’re sort of we almost grew up here in the United States thinking well if it didn’t work first I guess this is just not gonna work and I shouldn’t be doing that the truth is things aren’t gonna be easy you’re gonna do make steaks in the weights being successful means saying okay well if this isn’t working and I did something wrong well then I’ll try something else because other people obviously can do it that’s true you can too you just have to accept that you just have to keep going basically you know you have to everybody’s gonna have those moments I’ve you know even just two months ago for some weird reason one afternoon I was just thinking man it just don’t fill up don’t feel so great about this you know you get these feel these strange fees like wow I get you know I could have stopped in to be a whole lot easier but then I I said no that’s the old way of thinking that’s a failure of mindset and that’s not how I not what I want I have my dreams of my goals and I have a hunger for it as Tony Robbins says the hunger is what drives people to succeed and go beyond their their original expectations and achieve great things so I knew what I wanted and I said do I want it badly enough yes or no that’s simple yes just keep going keep learning and that’s one reason I joined your chorus was because you know I heard great things about you and you have legitimate information which unfortunately can be hard to find these days there’s so much noise out there and and I forget who said it but someone that you need two things to succeed you need a good blueprint and you need to take action consistently and I believe the five figure niche site chorus is a great blueprint and it works in s legit and there’s no smoking mirrors just no tricks it’s just good good old-fashioned you know good good old-fashioned guidelines and here’s what you do and you know and here’s how things work and this will help you nice appreciate you saying that and as well let’s get into some more tactical stuff people really enjoy that so we’ll hit a few areas keyword research and just reviewing keywords do you have any specific tips to give or any insights that you learned over the past you know year or so I I’ve changed the tools I use but that’s not necessarily always a critical thing that the biggest thing is I keep I have several small ideas so for example if I’m out and about I might be either in a restaurant or a store and I might get an I might see an object that’s somewhat related to my niche and I’ll write it down and I’ll keep it in the back of my mind and later I’ll put it in my keyword tool and start seeing what pops out also I’ve gotten more and more thorough about evaluating keywords so I get a huge list the biggest I can within reason within the guidelines that you teach people and then I sort through those and if those don’t always work out so usually I’ll find something related to those and that’ll spur off a whole nother list of keywords I try to keep focused in not worrying so much about hey is this a high number of average searches per month even if it’s a very small number I’ve learned that it’s a lot of those are still good especially if they’re low competition because later on some of my posts that were basing these tiny numbers they rank for other keywords as well and they did well so don’t don’t think that something is too small low-hanging fruit as we say it still has value yeah cool what what tools do you use if you want to mention yes progressed through several over time but now I’m using mainly aah rafts but I do still use SEM rush occasionally and it may also go back to using both of them at the same time so I really enjoy like do you feel like one of them has a more accurate keyword search volume or do you just not really care about the search why I’m so much I know that they’re both supposed to be pretty good according to industry people who actually test them and articles I’ve read supposedly aah Rose is slightly better but it you know they’re nobody know really knows for percent right I feel pretty confident about either one of those two tools yeah sure you know and I used to think some rush was a little bit further off but when I started looking at more of the documentation for any of the tools they’ll usually tell you like the number of months that they average out right so depending on like whether it’s like 12 months or 30 months or whether it’s a growing trend or a declining trend like it could look a little bit different but like you said the search volume doesn’t matter as much is like identifying like a need there and if it’s a low search volume it could still be just fine so yeah one quick note about keywords I’ve always got to be careful to instead of rushing in and putting a lot of time into good content about a specific keyword I need to check the competition and say you know it needs to pass a test you need to be it which you show people how to to do that in your chorus of course that’s very important because when you’re starting off and you’re beginner wow it’s very discouraging if you never rank well for something is if you fail to check it right now that’s part of it you got to look at the big picture correct for sure now moving on to content okay you said that you you realize your content wasn’t like as good as you can do so yes you have any tips on content or like improving or anything like that absolutely I do because I’ve gotten a lot of comments about mine and I’m really happy to say happy to say that people both readers and people who I know that know my socks they like it at this point I’ll say my first mistake was when I felt like I couldn’t write long enough content in the beginning I went about it the wrong way so what I figured out was instead of just saying this is the best product in some some details also now I’ll add value by putting in more about how that kind of product works pros and cons of it a lot of helpful information because not everybody knows the stuff on it when they find your site and your post it is legitimate it’s not just I’m not putting in some some fluff putting in something that actually contributes and then I go on to did the the pros and cons of my buyer keyword the product information will have you there are some really good free resources what I’d like to do now was I’ve learned that in some cases infographics can help contribute to really good content as well and you can do a lot of that for free in canva and they look really sharp i use google drawings which is free for some of my diagrams when it’s technical information to help give really good clear diagrams that help people to understand something to do something themselves or to see how something works and like i’ve seen doesn’t know another side terrible things like that in those tools out there also to check your grammar things like that my Yoast SEO plugin it highlights some of the readability scoring that’s another thing that helps also it helps keep me in line and I’ve noticed that I’ve gotten better at writing content because if I check my work I’ll find mistakes and I learned from that in a simple keeps improving it’s a process you know nice very good and then you mentioned infographics in there so do you create an infographic for like every piece of content or how do you how do you decide not every piece I try to do it where I feel like it’s gonna benefit it for example of course I have buyer keyword posts and info posts as well info posts a lot of times I do use those if it’s something where I can add some facts explain how some quick tips and things some is a way of summarizing it presenting it and it looks very professional if it’s a product what’s a buyer post well might want to know more about it and see some quick facts I’ll use one there if I think is if I think it’s relevant and helpful and as far as the link building have you done much much link building for your site can you take us through your process and stuff I have done I did quite a bit of commenting what I would do was I was following the steps in the course I would make my big master spreadsheet and would go through all the little the websites that I we we were able to generate and I go through each one to where I could I would leave a comment I used to get up in the morning early before work and do say 10 or 12 every day and go through that I built up a lot and then also I a few real gas pose but most I have bought some but I tried I II had to be very careful with that kind of stuff I did only that to try to make the best use of my time because there’s also trying to make more content because I write it myself it’s hard to juggle two things sometimes for me is that full-time job I did do I bought some I did some of the natural way and then the blog commenting about how many links would you say you have as far as the gap or yeah like the do follow guest post not the blog okay yeah the do follow I think or 15 I think it’s 15 to 20 I very probably uh okay yeah okay so pretty much like prescribed as in the course yes cool very good right exactly alright and do you have any other like sort of overall tips and for people that are like hey I want to do what Marty’s done here just in a general sense to follow in your footsteps yeah I really do I think one of the first things and I would tell people is you need to look at it from the perspective that it’s not gonna happen in just a few weeks it’s a progressive thing and you’re it starts off very slowly and you really need to start off the right way put in the real effort and he had to be consistent every week you need to be doing something and you need to understand that you just need to keep working on it and stay strong and get to the first point where you start getting traffic and then what you do and you get that first cell it’s very rewarding and it’ll build upon itself over time you keep seeing it rise you know you just just understand you need to be patient very good I think um you know the further you go along the more you realize you don’t know anything even though you’re accumulating knowledge so like I bet right now Marty you’re like oh man I know so much more so much more like real experience than last year and now you’re thinking well there’s so much more I don’t know that I didn’t even know was there right absolutely and that to add to moniker vias comment you’ve got to be proactive and go learn stuff you can’t just sit sit in the chair and expect the information to fall into your lap if you really want to get better and keep improving you really need to go out there and use the resources that are free and they’re out there sitting there and yeah what you just said is very true I when the more you learn the more you learn you don’t know and that there’s more even more to learn but you’ll grow as a person and you’ll you even look back and say wow I I used to do things so differently and I feel so much more confident now and I can go back and improve my mistakes and get even more efficient and do things keep hitting heading towards even bigger milestones you know yep and just another thing to add in there with the learning is like you know I’ve been doing this for about five years so kind of a long time but also not that long I’m constantly trying to learn and already haven’t mentioned it to you but like when I’m in say our Facebook group right I’m like looking for information like everyone in the course is like someone I could learn from because you all have different experiences and different sources where you’re getting information so it’s I mean I’m constantly trying to learn still because I know that I don’t know everything and as soon as I think that I don’t need to learn anything that’s when I got trouble so it’s very interesting you know just once you get some level of knowledge you’re like oh I need to learn a lot more so very interesting so the success of the site it sounds like it’s on the upwards trajectory like what’s the impact on your life anything like specific and concrete I was already motivated very driven to succeed I have my dream is to be free one day to work for myself that’s my ultimate dream freedom but when this happened and I hit that goal that milestone it’s like it’s it’s like something is saying this is not just possible that you’re definitely gonna do it as long as you just keep going it’s like an affirmation is sort an affirmation and a reward at the same time it’s a is a person you feel like it’s kind of hard to describe as a person feels like you’re you’ve got more wind behind you it’s gonna be a little bit easier now and I’ve even been told after you get to this point it’s gonna be easier you just keep going yeah and your motivation is probably like rising and like Debra’s you’re like I can do it and like you’re you have the the proof now right like you thought you’re gonna do it but now yes absolutely like the real results very exactly it’s exactly I feel even more motivated to keep going in and learning and improving fixing everything I can and just just keep working keep doing what’s working stay focus and keep doing doing what’s working awesome so Marty thanks a lot really appreciate you spending some time with us in the niche site project community today yeah thank you so much Doug it’s been a wonderful experience and I’m very happy to be here awesome well you all in the audience can potentially catch Marty on some live streams in the chat he kind of lays low so we’re gonna protect you know his social media feed and stuff like that so you could just say hi to Marty when you see him on the live streams thanks Marty all right great thanks everybody thanks Doug thanks a lot Marty you really appreciate you taking the time to talk to the new site project audience be sure to leave a comment if you have any questions for Marty I know he’ll be taking a look at them and if you want an update in a few months or something like that let us know that too maybe I’ll be able to convince Marty if there’s enough people to come back on and do another interview thanks a lot you

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